Jython Interview from the JVM Languages Summit

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We interview Jim Baker, Tobias Ivarson, Frank Wierzbicki and Phil Jenvey from the Jython team, a JVM implementation of the Python programming language.

• Jython home page
• http://www.jython.org/Project/
  
• Frank Wierzbicki's blog
• http://fwierzbicki.blogspot.com/
  
• New compiler for Jython (Tobias' project)
• http://technorati.com/videos/youtube.com%2F
  watch%3Fv%3D7TQAgQ8aZXo
  
• CPython
• http://www.python.org/ 
• Guido Van Rossum
• http://www.python.org/~guido/ 
• PyCon
• http://www.python.org/community/pycon/ 
• Python 2.5
• http://www.python.org/download/releases/2.5/ 
• Google Summer of Code
• http://code.google.com/soc/2008/ 
• Python 3000 3.0 is coming
• http://docs.python.org/dev/3.0/whatsnew/3.0.html 
• JNA - Java Native Access
• https://jna.dev.java.net/ 
• Relative imports feature in Python
• http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0328/ 
• PEP0008 - discourages the use of relative imports
• http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/ 
• Python 2.6
• http://www.python.org/download/releases/2.6/
  
• http://docs.python.org/whatsnew/2.6.html
  
• Python standard libraries
• http://docs.python.org/library/ 
• Python ctypes
• http://www.python.org/doc/2.5.2/lib/module-ctypes.html 
• Cliff Click on JVM languages
• http://blogs.azulsystems.com/cliff/2008/09/jvm-language-su.html 
• Lots of CPython choices for GUI creation
• http://wiki.python.org/moin/GuiProgramming 
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Report from the JVM Language Summit

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We bring you a situation report recorded from the JVM language summit, including some special guests and special announcements. We were in a bit of a noisy room so please forgive any unavoidable background noise, and yes, someone did have a phone on, and it's very chatty.

• Boffins
• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boffin
  

• Joined by:
• Charles Oliver Nutter: http://blog.headius.com/ 
• Neal Gafter: http://gafter.blogspot.com/ 
• Bill Pugh: http://www.cs.umd.edu/~pugh/
  
• Christian Kemper:
  http://www.javapolis.com/confluence/display/JP04/Christian+Kemper
  

• Neal Gafter to Microsoft!
• http://www.weiqigao.com/blog/2008/09/26/
  neal_gafter_to_join_microsoft.html
  

• Java Puzzlers
• http://www.javapuzzlers.com/
  

• Big winners: 
• InvokeDynamic:
  http://blog.headius.com/2008/09/first-taste-of-invokedynamic.html
  
• Tail calls/tail recursion:
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tail_recursion
  
• Interface injection:
  http://blogs.sun.com/jrose/entry/interface_injection_in_the_vm
  
• Multiple-dispatch:
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_dispatch
  
• Value-types:
  http://benhutchison.wordpress.com/2008/06/
  15/the-jvm-needs-value-types/
  
• Tuples:
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuple
  

• Other notable requests:
• http://openjdk.java.net/projects/mlvm/subprojects.html
  
• Lightweight method handles and bytecode loading
• Continuations/stack introspection
• Intermediate wrapper types
• Symbolic freedom (non-java names)
• Better performance

• Maxine VM
• https://maxine.dev.java.net/
  

• Other related information:
• http://www.artima.com/weblogs/viewpost.jsp?thread=176597 
• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_platform#Platform
  

• Slides from the JVM Language Summit (click through to the talks in the agenda)
  
• http://openjdk.java.net/projects/mlvm/jvmlangsummit/agenda.html
  

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  • Closing - Juan Carlos Jimenez - In the House (Intro No. 1)
    

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• GetJar
• http://www.getjar.com
• Android
• http://www.android.com 
• Simon Brown on JavaFX
• http://www.simongbrown.com/blog/2008/09/02/
  javafx_why_how_and_when_will_it_be_successful.html

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• Brian Ehmann - the Java Posse intern
• Craig Muth for maintaining the Java Posse Memorizable site - http://memorizable.org/Java_Posse
• Theme Music:
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    written and performed by Loose Bruce Kerr of the Dr. Demento Show and Sun Microsystems attorney.
    Based on the WWI popular song, "Ja-da." Ukelele style on the recording taught to Bruce by his dad.
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  • Closing - Juan Carlos Jimenez - In the House (Intro No. 1)
    

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Newscast for Sept 17th 2008

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• Java complexity again, but from a different angle:
• http://forums.java.net/jive/thread.jspa?
  messageID=298125&tstart=0#298125
  

• JVM Language summit - the details emerge
• http://openjdk.java.net/projects/mlvm/
  jvmlangsummit/agenda.html

Roundup 08 - Start-ups and Funding

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• Venture Capital
• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venture_capital 
• Top 100 VC companies of 2007
• http://www.entrepreneur.com/vc100 
• Angel Investors
• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_investors 
• Craigslist
• http://www.craigslist.org/about/sites
  
• Guy Kawasaki on VC
• http://blog.guykawasaki.com/2006/11/the_venture_cap.html
• Stanford Entrepreneurial Thought Leaders series
• http://etl.stanford.edu/
  
• Funding Universe
• http://www.fundinguniverse.com/
  

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    written and performed by Loose Bruce Kerr of the Dr. Demento Show and Sun Microsystems attorney.
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Newscast for Sept 4th 2008

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• Google has released a new Browser, Google Chrome
• http://www.google.com/chrome
  
• http://www.google.com/googlebooks/chrome/#
  
• http://dev.chromium.org/
• http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=
  08/09/01/162224&from=rss 
• http://www.google.com/support/chrome/bin/
  answer.py?answer=95282&topic=14683
• http://blog.internetnews.com/skerner/2008/
  09/mozilla-firefox-strikes-back-a.html
• http://arstechnica.com/journals/apple.ars/2008/09/03/
  google-chrome-brought-to-you-in-part-by-a-camino-dev
• http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/pinkerton/archives/019560.html

• InvokeDynamic - it's ALIVE!
• http://blogs.sun.com/jrose/entry/
  international_invokedynamic_day 
• http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=292
  

• Java Project of the Week - SocialSite
• https://socialsite.dev.java.net/
  

• Java App of the Week - JavE - the Java ASCII Versatile Editor
  
• http://www.jave.de/
  

• Java App of the Week Bonus - Wordle
• http://wordle.net/
  

Quick News

• OpenJDK 7 makes a comeback on the Mac
• http://landonf.bikemonkey.org/code/java/
  SoyLatte_Meets_OpenJDK.20080819.html
  
• http://weblogs.java.net/blog/editors/
  archives/2008/08/time_wont_wait.html
  

• There are two noteworthy Eclipse conferences coming up this fall in the US
• http://eclipse.dzone.com/articles/eclipse-conference-season
  

• The Apache Commons project has released Apache Commons BeanUtils version 1.8.0
• http://commons.apache.org/beanutils/
  

• Inovaworks, a Portuguese startup, has announced jaiPhon
• http://www.jaiphon.com/ 
• http://www.theserverside.com/news/
  thread.tss?thread_id=50503
  

• Apple has also been hit with a lawsuit in the U.K.
  
• http://weblogs.java.net/blog/terrencebarr/
  archive/2008/08/get_real_apple.html
  

• JBoss Cache 2.2.0 - codenamed "Poblano" - has been released with General Availability
  
• http://jbosscache.blogspot.com/2008/08/
  poblano-goes-ga.html
  

• The apache project has release version 2.0.2 of Apache Lenya
• http://lenya.apache.org/
  
• http://www.theserverside.com/news/
  thread.tss?thread_id=50504
  

• InfoQ has a short interview with Dmitry Jeremov of JetBrains about the upcoming IntelliJ IDEA 8.0
• http://www.infoq.com/news/2008/08/intellij_8_M1
  

• GWT 1.5 final is now out
• http://googlewebtoolkit.blogspot.com/2008/
  08/gwt-15-now-available.html
  

• Sun has announced the Sun Tech Days 2008/2009 starting with an event in Sao Paulo, Brazil in September
• http://developers.sun.com/events/techdays/

Interview with Kito Mann on JSF and JSFOne

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• Kito's blog
• http://weblogs.java.net/blog/kito75/

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Newcast for August 22nd, 2008

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• Sadly, Java does not run on the Mars Lander
• The Golden Gate Project http://research.sun.com/projects/goldengate/
• Space surveillance radar http://www.sun.com/aboutsun/pr/2008-04/sunflash

• Google has released a new version of the Android SDK. 0.9 Beta
• http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/08/
  announcing-beta-release-of-android-sdk.html 
• http://code.google.com/android/documentation.html
  

• A different angle on the checked vs unchecked exceptions debate
• http://weblogs.java.net/blog/timboudreau/archive/
  2008/08/semichecked_exc.html
  

• A Polish security researcher claims to have found numerous bugs and security exploits in the Nokia Series 40 Java ME implementation
  
• http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/08/11/
  Researcher_reveals_critical_Java_bugs_in_Nokia_phones_1.html
  
• http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08/21/series_40_security/
  

• Return type differentiated method overloading - it's possible, but is it a good idea?
• http://today.java.net/pub/a/today/2008/07/31/
  return-type-based-method-overloading.html
  

• Caoyuan Deng has released a beta of the new Scala plugin for use with the Netbeans 6.5 beta
• http://wiki.netbeans.org/Scala 

• Applet of the week - Nodiatis
• http://www.nodiatis.com/

Quick News

• SDN ask the experts panel about JavaFX
  
• http://java.sun.com/developer/community/askxprt/
  sessions/2008/jl0818.jsp
  

Newscast for August 15th, 2008

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• A preview of JavaFX has been released.
• http://javafx.com/
  
• http://www.prweb.com/releases/javafx/
  preview/prweb1165664.htm
  
• http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/
  2008/07/31/sun-releases-javafx-preview
  
• http://www.javafx.com/htdocs/downloadpage.html
  
• http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/ea/
  6u10/6u10rcDownload.jsp#6u10JDKs 
• http://blogs.sun.com/javafx/entry/this_ain_t_your_dad 
• http://www.kodewerk.com/javafx_are_we_there_yet.htm
  
• http://weblogs.java.net/blog/joshy/archive/
  2008/08/javafx_bleg.html
  

• BGGA closures implementation is now feature complete
• http://gafter.blogspot.com/2008/08/
  java-closures-prototype-feature.html
• http://www.javac.info/closures.tar.gz
  
• http://today.java.net/pub/pq/220
  

• IntelliJ IDEA 8.0 Beta (codenamed Diana) has been released by JetBrains
• http://www.artima.com/forums/flat.jsp?
  forum=270&thread=235969
  
• http://www.cafeaulait.org/#July_31_2008_75240
  

• NetBeans 6.5 Beta (also known as Milestone 2) is available
• http://wiki.netbeans.org/NewAndNoteWorthyMilestone2NB65#
  section-NewAndNoteWorthyMilestone2NB65-
  NetBeansIDE6.5NewAndNoteworthyInMilestone2 
• http://www.netbeans.org/community/releases/65/
  

• The Anti-Java professor is speaking up again
• http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/columns/
  article.php/3763651/The+TIOBE+List+Director+
  vs.+the+Anti-Java+Professor.htm
  
• http://catsonkeyboards.blogspot.com/2008/08/
  anti-java-professor-still-off-base.html
  

• Applet of the week - Search engine optimization (SEO) advice in a mindmap
• http://merseyinternet.com/seoliverpool.htm 
• http://merseyinternet.com/serendipity/archives/
  3-Put-your-thoughts-in-order-with-an-SEO-Mind-Map.html
  

Quick News

• Sun has released its Q4 financial results
• http://www.cafeaulait.org/#August_6_2008_22184 

• JSR 296 - Swing Application Framework update
• http://weblogs.java.net/blog/alexfromsun/
  archive/2008/08/swing_applicati.html
  

• Microsoft have joined the Apache Software Foundation as a platinum member
• http://apache.slashdot.org/article.pl?
  sid=08/07/25/2135202&from=rss
  

• JSR 255 JMX (Java Management Extensions) 2.0 API
  
• http://weblogs.java.net/blog/emcmanus/
  archive/2008/08/playing_with_th.html 

• The latest Tiobe programming language report once again places Java on top
• http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-
  10009669-16.html?tag=bl 

• Oracle has released WebLogic  Server 10g release 3
• http://www.theserverside.com/news/thread.tss?
  thread_id=50305 

• IBM has submitted JSR 326 - Post Mortem JVM Diagnostics API, to the JCP
• http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=326 

• A quick reminder about the upcoming JSF One conference in Vienna, VA
  
• http://www.jsfone.com/show_topics.jsp?showId=166 

• The JavaGit project has just released a Java API for accessing Git repositories
• http://javagit.sourceforge.net/ 

• JavaLobby has a podcast interview with Peter Muir about Seam 2.1
• http://java.dzone.com/articles/whats-new-seam-21-an-interview
  

• The Apache Jakarta project has release version 6.0.18 of Tomcat
• http://www.cafeaulait.org/#August_5_2008_24610 

• Demo from JUG Genova of a Wii remote being used to control NASA's world wind
  
• http://weblogs.java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici/
  archive/2008/08/nasa_world_wind.html 

• Java 6 Update 10 release will patch existing JREs in-place
  
• https://jdk6.dev.java.net/6u10ea.html 

• The Ubuntu project has promoted OpenJDK 6 to main
• http://weblog.loadfoo.web.id/2008/07/31/
  ubuntu-810-turns-to-openjdk-6/ 
• http://weblogs.java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici/archive/
  2008/08/the_openjdk_mis.html
  

• HermesJMS has just reached version 1.13
  
• http://hermesjms.com/confluence/display/HJMS/Home 

• IBM has released WebSphere Application Server, community edition v2.1
  
• http://www.theserverside.com/news/thread.tss?
  thread_id=50185 

• Glossitope revived for JavaFX under the name WidgetFX
• http://code.google.com/p/widgetfx/ 

• FormDev software has released JFormDesigner 4.0
• http://www.formdev.com/download/
  
• http://eclipse.dzone.com/announcements/
  jformdesigner-40-released-with-0
  

• Sun has shipped OpenDS Standard Edition 1.0
  
• http://weblogs.java.net/blog/marinasum/archive/
  2008/07/opends_standard.html 

• JavaLobby opines that JavaFX will succeed because it works on Linux
• http://java.dzone.com/articles/javafxs-killer-feature 

• The gdata-scala-client project on Google code hosting is the start of a Google Data API library for Scala
• http://code.google.com/p/gdata-scala-client/ 

• The EasyMock project has released version 2.4 of EasyMock
• http://www.easymock.org/
  

• InfoQ has a video interview with Neal Gafter from QCon London 2008
• http://www.infoq.com/interviews/gafter-closures-language-
  features-optional-typing;jsessionid=
  36BEECA9F21B74DE17FED1AC3DA256B1 

• The openJDK project has approved two new projects
• http://weblogs.java.net/blog/editors/archives/
  2008/08/dont_want_to_kn.html 

• The next Mobile and Embedded Developer Days conference has been announced for November 12-13th 2008 at the Santa Clara auditorium
• http://weblogs.java.net/blog/brinkley/archive/
  2008/08/mobile_media_an_1.html 

• A draft spec of the JSR 277 (Java Module System) OSGi support is currently under discussion in the JSR 277 expert group
• http://weblogs.java.net/blog/mandychung/archive/
  2008/07/osgi_repository.html 

• A roundup of Grails news
  
• http://blogs.sun.com/theaquarium/entry/
  jndi_data_sources_in_grails
  
• http://www.manning.com/gsmith/ 

• JSR 289 - SIP servlet v1.1 is now final
  
• http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=289
  
• http://blogs.sun.com/theaquarium/entry/jsr_289_sip_servlet_v1 

• New Maven plugin for creating Apple Mac OS X applications is now available
• http://mojo.codehaus.org/osxappbundle-maven-plugin/
• http://simplericity.org/macify/

• Java.net has released the latest JavaOne community podcast with a special guest - James Gosling
• http://today.java.net/pub/a/today/2008/
  07/25/j1-2k8-mtW10.html
  

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• JBoss/Hibernate Lawsuit
• http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/06/12/
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• Dallas rules Group
• http://rulesfestregistration.dallasrulesgroup.org/

200 Episodes of the Java Posse

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A look back at the first 200 (ish) episodes of the Java Posse

WARNING: This podcast is LONG, and it does not cover any Java news. You have been warned! We ran to about 1 hour 45 minutes and had a blast. This episode will be particularly useful to you if you have not listened to all of our episodes, since we discuss milestones, interviewees, highlights and other standout material you might not have heard before.

In particular, many of the interviews we have done in the past are still relevant today, and cover information people have been asking for recently!

We have provided links to the interviews and roundup sessions below. For links to other episodes please look on the right side of the Java Posse site - http://javaposse.com - where our archives are organized by month, or use the search (top right) to find an episode number or subject.